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Post by IVA News » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:45 am
What if Northern Rock goes bust?

The news that the Northern Rock needs to be helped out by the Bank of England will have come as a shock to most customers.

Although it changed from being a building society to a bank in 1997, most people will have assumed that most of the money it lent in mortgages came from the savings deposited by its customers.

In reality, most has been borrowed from other financial institutions - a source that has dried up suddenly in the past month or so.

But what if the unthinkable happened - and the Northern Rock really did go bust?

Are savings at risk?

Not anymore.

Chancellor Alistair Darling has said that the government will guarantee all existing deposits held by the Northern Rock.

The move is an attempt to reinforce confidence in the beleaguered firm - and try to end the run on the bank which has seen more than £2bn being withdrawn by customers.

Banks are already covered by the Financial Services Compensation Scheme which protects 100% of the first £2,000 in any bank account and 90% of the next £33,000 - giving a maximum payout of £31,700 if a bank did go bust.

But under the measures unveiled by Mr Darling, Northern Rock savers would not lose a penny, regardless of how much they had deposited.

What about mortgage holders?

Contrary to some comment, they have the least to worry about.

If a mortgage lender goes bust, no one will come round trying to repossess borrowers' homes to get the money back.

In reality all that would happen is that the administrator would send borrowers a letter, telling them to keep on paying their monthly repayments.

In the meantime the mortgage, along with all the others, would, in all probability, be sold off to another mortgage company who borrowers would then pay for the remaining life of their loan.

Alternatively another bank might buy up the insolvent bank - lock, stock and barrel.

But people with applications for loans or mortgage applications in the pipeline might find they fell through.

The mortgage business is, in normal times, both steady and profitable, and there would be no shortage of buyers for the Northern Rock's loan book.

And shareholders?

Oh dear. Anyone who still owns shares in Northern Rock has already been losing money.

The shares have lost about three quarters of their value since the start of the year, much of that since the beginning of August.

It is clear that professional investors lost confidence in the bank some time ago, and for precisely the reasons that have now appeared.

In the event of insolvency, the shares would probably be worthless, as shareholders take all the risk and come bottom of the pecking order, after all the creditors.

What about the workers?

The Northern Rock has nearly 6,000 staff and already has a plan to cut their numbers.

If the company went bust, some would almost certainly lose their jobs immediately, as job losses are the inevitable outcome of almost all insolvencies.

But it is worth remembering that the first priority of insolvency experts these days is to try and rescue a business and keep it going, at least for a while.

If an administrator or receiver thought there was a reasonable chance of selling the bank as a going concern, they might well hold fire on any redundancy plans - and leave such considerations up to a new owner.

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Post by mikebdomain » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:43 am
In reality, most has been borrowed from other financial institutions - a source that has dried up suddenly in the past month or so.


THIS IS JUST NOT TRUE! NR has four main sources of funding, borrowing from other financial institutions is meagre compared to other sources...


Retail Funding
Retail funds are an essential part of Northern Rock's funding platform. Retail deposits come from a variety of channels including via branch, postal, offshore, telephone and Internet-based accounts.

Wholesale Funding
Wholesale funding has become increasingly important to Northern Rock and will continue to be going forward. Established programmes include US and Euro Medium Term Note programmes. The diversification of sources of funding available to the Group will continue with particular emphasis on Europe, the United States, Canada and the Far East.

Securitisation
Securitisation has been an important source of funding for Northern Rock since the first issue in 1999. Securitisation will continue to be a significant source of funding for Northern Rock supporting incremental volume growth and capital efficiency with the appetite for securitised bonds, particularly of the quality of Northern Rock's, remaining high.

Covered Bonds
The fourth funding channel for Northern Rock was launched with the inaugural Covered Bond issue in April 2004. This programme provides further funding diversification for Northern Rock, being particularly attractive to European investors.

The chance of NR going 'BUST' are slim to none they have assets in excess of £116 billion.
But people with applications for loans or mortgage applications in the pipeline might find they fell through.


AGAIN - JUST NOT TRUE - NR are still accepting and completing business



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Post by Adam Davies » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:15 am
Hi
I can remember the BCCI bank going bust[late 80s ?] and I was a credit card holder.All that changed was that you sent your payment to the administrator each month but from memory I am sure that interest charges stopped.
I am sure that NR will not survive long term but will either be sold as a whole or parts sold off.
The damage has been done.
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Post by MelanieGiles » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:20 pm
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Post by mikebdomain » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:40 pm
LOL - I wondered how long it would take for the comparisons to come out of the woodwork - to be honest though, I expected barings first.

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