The Busby Babes

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Post by thebear29uk » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:02 pm
hi all

I've not been on much lately as my laptop is broken but wanted to recognise the 50th anniversary of the Munich Air Disaster as I'm a big Man Utd fan.

I spoke to my dad a couple of nights back and he was telling me he was doing National Service at Catterick when they heard the news. There were a few lads from Manchester there and they were all in shock at what they were hearing. 50 years on and my dad got very tearful telling me about it.

I found the following poem and hope nobody minds me posting this. I know its nothing to do with our debt concerns but I wanted to share it with you. Hope you don't mind.

Did you know Duncan Edwards, Dad?

Did you know Duncan Edwards Dad, I mean really really know?
It's just you've kept so many cuttings from all those years ago.
And were the babes the greatest, the greatest ever team?
Or just enshrined here in this history, just a bygone boyhood dream.
Now I know you idolised them Dad, you gave each one their own page, the pictures are well faded now, but I suppose that comes with age.

Dad, did Tommy Taylor really head a ball against the bar, which Harry Gregg collected, it had rebounded back so far?
And was Duncan Edwards really, the greatest of them all, with silken skills and feathery touch, thirteen stone and six foot tall?
Now there's a contradiction surely Dad, but I'm going to let it pass, but Billy Whelan must have played once, without first going to Mass.
And was Harry Gregg a goalkeeper supreme?
Were Eddie Coleman's hazy runs like red blurs on swards of green?
And Dad can you explain to me how it ever came to pass, that Roger Byrne, just five foot nine, covered every blade of glass?
Or how David Pegg whose swerving runs, like a scorpion you said, always struck the ball with venom, yet left no one for dead?
Or how it was that big Mark Jones could soar into the sky, yet still patrol his area, so that nobody got by?

Then there's the team of Sixty Eight, and Dad I'd like to know, how George Best was always missing, yet played five hundred games or so?
And how was it Bobby Charlton, who played so many vital roles, could be both a great goalscorer and a scorer of great goals?
Or how Denis Law had chipped a ball from forty yards or more, it came back off the crossbar, and yet Law was there to score?
What use was it that Pat Crerand could split defences with one pass, when the ball only ever landed on a sixpence on the grass?
And was Stepney's save at Wembley, the best you've ever seen, or was it just that it resulted in the fulfilment of a dream?
So now to Matt Busby, or Sir Matt as he's now known, from a mining town in Scotland, yet still one of our own?
Then finally there's the Munich clock, the disaster time still shown.
why do people say that they never intended coming home?

The boy looked up with pleading eyes, and his father gently said.
There's a lifetime of old memories in the scrapbook you've just read.
And of course there is some fiction, most fact, some strange yet true, that's what makes players into legends, now I've passed them on to you.

Those pictures may be faded son, but I can see them all so clear, as if it were just yesterday, and I hold each memory dear.
Now I've passed this scrapbook on to you, to treasure for all time, And you too will find your heroes and build to them a shrine,
and you'll add your bits of fiction, but don't worry son that's fine, to make legends of your heroes and then place them alongside mine.
And you'll understand in years to come, as you watch great United teams, why it is we call Old Trafford, The Theatre of Dreams.

Regards

Dave
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Post by size5 » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:12 pm
Brilliant Brilliant Brilliant!!!

I have been a MASSIVE Man Utd fan since I was nothing more than a babe in arms. My elder brother used to ask me, "Who is King Michael?" to which I would reply, apparently, "Dennis Law!!" First game I ever went to was the '76 cup final versus Southampton.
I actually clocked off early today and went to Old Trafford. There was nothing I could say that not already been said, and absolutely nothing I could do but I felt that if I didn't go then somehow that would be wrong, I needed to pay my respects on this of all days, though I have done so many times previously.

I am absolutely gutted that I cannot get a ticket for Sunday, how poignant that the game should be against City of all people.

Normally I abhor touts, but I am seriously thinking of buying a ticket off one on the day.
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Post by cat 1 » Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:37 pm
[:)]I know footy is on as the husband has disapeared upstairs to watch so I'm as keen as Lady H!!!
 
 

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Post by Skippy » Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:53 pm
I've been a United fan for nearly 22 years and even though I wasn't born I still get choked up reading about Munich. I've always loved this poem:

The Flowers of Manchester

One cold and bitter Thursday in Munich, Germany,
Eight great football stalwarts conceded victory.
Eight men will never play again, who met disaster there,
The flowers of English football, the flowers of Manchester.

The Busby Babes were flying, returning from Belgrade,
This great United family, all masters of their trade.
The pilot of the aircraft, the skipper Captain Thain,
Three times tried to take off and twice turned back again.

The third time down the runway disaster followed close,
There was slush upon that runway and the aircraft never rose.
It ploughed into the marshy ground, it broke, it overturned
And eight of that team were killed as the blazing wreckage burned.

Roger Byrne and Tommy Taylor, who were capped for England's side,
And Ireland's Liam Whelan and England's Geoff Bent died.
Mark Jones and Eddie Colman and David Pegg also,
They all lost their lives as it plouged on through the snow.

Big Duncan he went to, with an injury to his brain,
And Ireland's brave Jack Blanchflower will never play again.
The great Matt Busby lay there, the father of this team,
Three long months passed by before he saw his team again.

The trainer, coach and secretary and three members of the crew,
Also eight sporting journalists who with United flew,
And one of them was Big Swifty who we will ne'er forget,
The finest English 'keeper who ever graced the net.

England's finest football team it's record truly great,
It's proud success mocked by this cruel turn of fate.
Eight men will never play again who met disaster there,
The flowers of English football, the flowers of Manchester.

RIP the Babes.
 
 

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Post by wen » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:12 pm
Arsenal fan here i'm afraid... but still all the same, a terrible tragedy, and very moving scenes in both Manchester & Munich.
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Post by Skippy » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:23 pm
I've Sky+'d a lot of the programmes from MUTV (it was free today) so I'll probably have a good cry at that.

I'm watching the England match and I'm sorry to say that the players out there aren't fit to lace the boots of the Babes.
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