What is considered to be a fair F & F offer?

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Post by Vickilou28 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:26 am
Hi everyone,

Just wondered what you think a reasonable offer would be as full and final settlement on my IVA? My partner and I have been talking about it and he said he would be willing to lend me the money if he can. I owe about £14,800 having looking at the figures on my recent variation report (I needed a 6 month extension as I got made redundant). I think my partner will only be able to find about £5,000 though....I'm in the 3rd year of my IVA (yr 3 started in March 09).

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Post by kallis3 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:09 pm
Hi,

I don't know whether that would be enough, you need to speak to your IP about it.

Usually the creditors like you to get as near to the agreed dividend as possible.

You will also need to tell them that the money is only available for a F&F and you will have to give a reason why you want it to finish early - i.e. redundancy, ill health or something like that.
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Post by rayb » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:27 pm
Hi,

As Jan says you need to be closer to the agreed dividend as possible, but as a guestimate I would say you would need to offer around £9-10K to make it attractive to your Creditors to conclude earlier. (£5K is very low)
 
 

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Post by Vickilou28 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:56 pm
Thanks Guys, I don't know if he'll be able to stretch to that amount...it would mean increasing and extending his existing loan so maybe it's not such a good idea - one of us in an IVA is enough I think!! Maybe I should just ride it out for the remaining 3 years! [^]
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Post by David Mond » Sun May 03, 2009 6:20 pm
Yes I think that that is best Vickilou28 as you would need to find much more otherwise.
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Post by s27 » Sun May 03, 2009 7:38 pm
My F&F was accepted at £5000, I had another £13500 to pay over 2.5 years.
 
 

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Post by neverending » Sun May 03, 2009 11:08 pm
Hi
It really depends on the circumstances, for example if your ability to pay your IVA each month was under threat [illness, redundancy, reduced hours]then creditors may well acept a small one off payment to conclude.
Only your IP can give you definitive advice.
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Post by David Mond » Tue May 05, 2009 7:44 am
Obviously special circumstances (as articulated in another post) can make a low F&F acceptable.
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Post by Vickilou28 » Tue May 05, 2009 9:06 am
Well I was made redundant in December 08 and I'm finding it really tough to secure alternative employment, hence still being out of work almost 5 months later. I think I will have a word with my IP and see if the offer of £5,000 would be good enough for my creditors given my circumstances. Do you think creditors will be a bit more lenient due to the current climate?
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Post by David Mond » Tue May 05, 2009 9:08 am
Possibly and 5 months out of work should attune their minds to your current predicament. Have a go and see what happens.

Good luck.
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Post by Vickilou28 » Tue May 05, 2009 9:09 am
Wish me luck!! :)
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Post by Vickilou28 » Tue May 05, 2009 9:21 am
Just one more question...I'm going to email my IP now...what sort of thing should I write?
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Post by David Mond » Tue May 05, 2009 9:42 am
Explain all about you particular circumstances, how many jobs you have applied for, how many interviews you have attended, the type of work you have been applying for, the current financial situation of your home and household etc etc. Any health related issues.
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Post by Vickilou28 » Tue May 05, 2009 1:06 pm
S27... What company are you with? How long did you wait for the outcome?
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Post by s27 » Tue May 05, 2009 1:17 pm
Proposed the offer to IP early March, variation meeting was late April, agreed first time. Currently waiting for Certificate. I'll let you know the firm when I get my Certficate, don't want to mess anything up.
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