What would be a reasonable final settlement offer ?

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Sarahdsk59

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Post by Sarahdsk59 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:42 am
I owe 2500 what would be a reasonable final settlement offer

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Post by Foggy » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:18 am
It depends on what you mean by "owe" --- Is this the amount still left to pay under the agreement ( monthly payment multiplied by number of payments left) ?

Do you have equity to be addressed (do you own or rent) --- if so there might be an extra 12 payments to be added ?

How long to you have left until the agreed end ( considering also the possibility of a 12 month extension if you are a home owner with enough equity) ?

Sorry for the inquisition, but these facts are salient and we cannot answer with any degree of confidence without knowing.
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Post by Sarahdsk59 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:02 pm
Hi

I have 12 months left I currently pay 211 per month. I rent my house.

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Post by Foggy » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:53 pm
12 months will offer them some savings in admin, but cost them £500 for a variation meeting, so I would say an offer of £2,000 to £2, 200 might do it.
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Post by Lisa Thomas » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:39 am
It might take your IP several months to sort this out and close your case so might not really benefit you in making an offer but the more attractive the offer, the more likely creditors are to accept it.

Please note that it won't improve your credit rating any earlier.
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Post by AdamJ4 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:53 am
Can I ask the same question for my situation please?
Currently pay £131 per month with 4 years left.
Initially paid £153 pm for 2 years until the reduction.
Have paid in (including bonus payments) £6,990 in first 2 years.
I rent.
Many thanks

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Post by Foggy » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:01 pm
Hi Adam. Your creditors are expecting a further £6288. Why was that extra year tacked on? Was it a 6 year agreement from the start or extended with the reduction in payments ?

Either way it would indicate that your creditors think the dividend was on the low side, so you haven't as much wiggle room as some, although you are well ahead of the game due to bonus payments.

I would venture £5,500, maybe even £5,000 would get a fair hearing.
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Post by AdamJ4 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:17 pm
Thank you for that.
It was a 6 year agreement from the start. This was due to the fact that I gave more than 50% of my divorce settlement in my wife's favour due to her needing to rehouse her and my daughter. I thought it was the right thing to do, but not in the eyes of the creditors.
Do you think an offer of £5,000 would be acceptable, and if so, how do I go about wording my offer to the IVA company StepChange? Do I have to let them know it is full and final and that there is no more to offer?

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Post by Foggy » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:36 pm
Lisa Thomas posted a template letter that you could alter for your own circumstances on this thread:

http://www.iva.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=80786

Make sure you use the phrase "Full and Final Offer", not "Settlement" as this is a different ( and more expensive) animal. Mention that the offer is from third party funds ( they will check this) and is only for the purposes of a F&F. If the offer is rejected the money be retained by the third party and will no longer be available.
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Post by AdamJ4 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:06 pm
Many thanks. That's very useful. Much appreciated.

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Post by AdamJ4 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:25 am
Hello,

I have now contacted my IVA representative and they have sent forms to my parents, who will be gifting me the funds for a full and final offer. They have been advised to seek advice from a solicitor. I am not sure they are needing to incur extra costs. Is this just StepChange covering themselves as they cannot offer advice?
It has spooked my parents a little, but I don't think they need to officially get advice from a solicitor, or is that a requirement of the offer?
Thanks for your help.

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Post by kallis3 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:35 am
They should not need to seek extra advice - just make sure your IP is aware that the money is only available for a full and final and will be withdrawn if this is not agreed.
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Post by Foggy » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:51 am
Stepchange have a duty to give good advice, advising people to seek independent legal advice covers them in this respect.
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Post by Lisa Thomas » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:38 am
The point is your parents need to ensure they are satisfied they understand that they are gifting you these sums and it is not a loan. Therefore I understand they could not legally pursue you for repayment later on.

It's always wise to seek legal advice when you're spending these sorts of money but as long as they are satisfied then they may choose not to do so.

As Foggy says it's good practice for your IP to remind them of this.
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Post by Debt_guru » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:53 am
If you offer what you can afford as long as its not too far away from the remaining total you should be fine. Also sometimes if they do not accept they can send you a counter offer that you can think about.
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