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Post by lifenoteasy » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:32 pm
Revisionist history trying to distance them from GT to protect the main brand.
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Post by longslog101 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:41 pm
font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:<hr height="1" noshade>Revisionist history trying to distance them from GT to protect the main brand
if you then google the other directors Barnocorpulas

http://www.endole.co.uk/company/NI63193 ... -6-limited

the directors of that are Paul & Gareth. (neither new names to this forum)

Interestingly Gareth had a recent IPA complaint found against him in May this year - a month after the findings this new company popped up - what an amazing coincidence !

Gareth Williams http://www.insolvency-practitioners.org ... ry-notices
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Post by zee » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:54 am
l hope you get your issued resolved and reduce your stress levels
 
 

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Post by Shining » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:38 am
I would ask for a full breakdown of how they've come to decide you have 5k of equity to ensure you agree with all of their calculations. All the best.
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Post by Chingy1976 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:04 pm
Still no mailings from GT over this after last months phone call,
Rang them again and no answer just a call back system that has not called me back yet (2 hours),
Raging
 
 

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Post by thisusernameistaken » Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:56 pm
My take on it is this:

Property value: £123,000
x0.85: £104,550

Mortgage: £80,500
Secured debt: £34,300
Total = £114,800

Equity = -£10,250

Based on the 85% LTV (£104,500) you have a total secured borrowing against the property of £114,800 (approx) so there is no equity in the property that would be required to be taken into the IVA in my view.

Make absolutely sure that they calculate any equity based on YOUR IVA protocol. As pointed out, some are now fudging the numbers - here's an example of the con:

Value: £123,000
Mortgage: £80,500
Sec. Loan: £34,300 (total £114,800)

Value minus borrowing: £8,200 (£123,000-£114,800)
£8,200 x 0.85: £6,970 equity

As you can see, in the above example they would 'show' you have nearly £7k in equity. This is an outright lie.

The reason the 85% figure is used is because this is what mortgage lenders would consider before allowing a remortgage - they would need to see at least 15% equity in the property based on its value which would be the first calculation I gave above.

It makes me very angry that some IPs are manipulating the 85% calculation in order to get more cash from people in an IVA. It's frankly dishonest if not outright fraud in my book.

I dread to think how many people have paid an extra year as a result of this calculation being abused. I can also see a lot more coming when people in 'new' 2014 IVAs find that they are forced by their IP to take secured lending in 2019/20 onward based on this calculation or risk the IP threatening to fail their IVA.

A ****-storm is coming over all this, mark my words!

Chingy: in my view you have no equity in your property to introduce to the IVA but check your paperwork to be sure.
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Post by longslog101 » Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:16 pm
Chingy,

Send everything in writing and by recorded delivery, then if (when) you need to complain about amateur you have a full audit trail and proof.phone calls on,he waste your time and have no recourse.

Looks like my autocorrect has changed the new name to amateur, think it works well.[:o)]
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Post by Chingy1976 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:04 pm
I have just had an email off of aperture basically saying my Iva will fail if I don't pay more, I am simply destroyed, this is the first mailing I've had ever off of them and it goes

I am contacting you today regarding the consultation meeting that was held with your creditors. Creditors did not vote at the meeting and therefore your case had been referred to failures.

However if you extended your arrangement by six monthly contributions of £357 and one of £246.64 you will address the equity in your property based on our revised calculation and this will rescue your IVA from termination.

They never did send me the figures of which I asked for the last time I rang them

Any advice please
 
 

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Post by Foggy » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:56 pm
Do you agree that there is equity to be had from the property ? I am assuming that you have had valuations done and supplied a mortgage redemption statement, so will be aware of the figures involved.

If so the normal action in lieu of equity release is a 12 month extension, so with the 7 being requested, you are ahead of the game.
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Post by FormerlyST1100 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:25 pm
You have already shown by your own workings and those of "thisusernameistaken" that you don't have any equity in your property.

I would send them a letter, by recorded delivery, showing your own workings out that you do not have equity and so therefore should not have to pay any extension.

I would also tell them you want to see the full notes of the "consultation meeting" they say they have had with your creditors, although I don't know why they would have needed to hold one as everything should have been done as per your original IVA documents.

Tell them you are giving them 21 days in order to provide you with this information and their calculations for your equity or else you will be progressing this as an official complaint.

Details of where and how you can complain can be found on some of Lisa's posts or I am sure she would provide you with these details if you contact her direct.

Good luck and hope you manage to sort this mess out soon. The way Aperture are going I would gather it will not be long before they change their name yet again.
 
 

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Post by Foggy » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:09 pm
Apologies --- having now read the whole thread ( I had assumed you had tacked on to an older thread due to the posting dates), I agree with ST1100 that there is no equity to be addressed.
Neither of the various permutations of how they should and should not calculate equity ( which one is correct will be determined by the actual wording in your arrangement -- GT apparently write theirs to capture 85% of the equity, whereas the Protocols use 85% LTV. GT will try to do it their way without checking whether yours is written differently, having originated from a different firm.)equates to their figure of £2388.64.
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Post by Chingy1976 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:09 pm
It's crazy I don't understand this,
13 months since my last payment, all payments made with all requested information to them then this
I rang last year as I was fed up and they said I should be ok when it comes to the meeting as I've done all they have asked
I have equity but it states the 85% ltv from what I wrote on page one
Emailed them for a call back at 15:45 and guess what.......nothing

Time for a different strength of email,

I don't mind paying what I have to but I just want clarity of which I never have had from this company
 
 

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Post by Lisa Thomas » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:13 pm
I think you need to drop the attempts to contact by phone and email and do the old fashioned thing - write to them by recorded delivery post.

Ask them for a full explanation of the meeting they refer to. What was it for, why didn't you receive any further notice of it etc.

Challenge the equity calculation and insist that you have no equity over the £5k minimum and the extension should therefore not apply and they should take steps to close the case.

After that escalate to complaint if needs be.
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Post by Foggy » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:13 pm
I would make this a formal complaint to Aperture, giving them 21 days to respond. They have their own internal complaints procedure which, when they were GT, was laboriously long winded and should have been the subject of a complaint in its own right --- however, given the lack of response to your queries thus far I would also lodge a complaint via the Government Gateway here:

https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-insol ... actitioner
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Post by Chingy1976 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:23 pm
Thank you everybody for these responses they are very helpful
I will let you know if I hear anything back after sending the letter
I know the route cause was my fault as in getting into debt in the first place but I really thought after starting this Iva I could get my life back together,
It's nearly been 8 years since I've started this

Thanks again I really appreciate it
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