F&F - 2 IVAs

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Hyperdrive

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Post by Hyperdrive » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:07 pm
Anyone know whether whether a couple, who have separate IVA`s, could have a F&F accepted for one and not the other at the same F&F creditor`s meeting?
 
 

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Post by Foggy » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:10 pm
As far as I am aware there would be two separate creditors meetings -- one for each, probably one after the other -- and, yes, different results could come about.
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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:14 pm
Yes - this is entirely possible, as the voting takes place in individual cases and not the combined debts. There are always two separate meetings.
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Post by Hyperdrive » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:15 pm
Thanks Foggy. Don`t expect it to happen - our meeting is on 12 April - but just thought of it and the offices are closed now.
 
 

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Post by Hyperdrive » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:18 pm
And thanks to you too Mel. I thought as much as we have always had 2 Iva`s and the F&F submissions are separate, but just the one meeting.
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:31 pm
Not sure how you can actually hold two meetings at the same time!
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Post by Hyperdrive » Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:01 pm
Well we got a letter each with the same details so they`ll consider them in tandem I guess.
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:06 pm
How interesting!
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Post by emptyspaces » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:51 pm
Good luck with the meetings I am in process of doing a ff . Bet the meetings hardly last any time at all just a quick yes no vote but then I guess that's all is needed
"Since it cost a lot to win
and even more to lose
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Wait until your deal come round
Don't you let that deal go down"
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Post by Hyperdrive » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:51 pm
It`s a self-employed Partnership IVA Mel, so while we have 2 separate IVA accounts, we both have ownership of a business even though Mrs H has only minority status.
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:33 pm
Do you have a PVA then as well as separate IVAs?
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Post by debt tired » Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:08 pm
Our F&F was for 2 interlocking IVAs. My husband's was agrred by 78% of the creditors but mine only got 70%. Although if you combined the debt and votes, we got an acceptance of 76%, they were considered separately, so basically both were rejected (initially).
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:11 pm
There is no such thing as a combined IVA, so no real point in comparing the voting outcome by pooling all of the debts into one pot. But irritatingly close, when looking at the comparison, nevertheless.

When I see things like this, I really do think it is unfair that we still have to have a 75% acceptance rate in IVAs, when all other forms of insolvency are governed by simple majorities.
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Post by debt tired » Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:25 pm
It's a bit like having a Coalition government - the minority can dictate the outcome as they hold the balance of power. In my case, the creditors owed the most all accepted, it was the small creditors who objected, and the modifications they were demanding would have made very little difference to them due to the amount of debt they were owed. Very frustrating!
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:46 am
I couldn't agree with you more on that point.
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