On DMP with bulk figure. F&F IVA help

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Post by kallis3 » Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:17 pm
You would be protected if you did a full and final, that is legally binding on the creditors and the remainder of the debts would be written off, plus you can let an IP take the strain and sort it all out for you.

I don't know what the time scale would be until a creditors meeting, but your credit record will be shot for 6 years from the time the IVA is accepted.

This will be the same if you come to an arrangement with your creditors, as your credit record is already bad from your DMP.
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Post by MelanieGiles » Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:43 am
It is pretty easy to get agreement with creditors to a full and final settlement outside the IVA procedure. You just effectively make another contract.
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Post by David Mond » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:00 pm
As I have said the only way in english law for a F&F to be legally binding is through an IVA. Not withstanding a written agreement outside an IVA agreeing to accept a lesser sum - this in law is not enforeceable.
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Post by kallis3 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:07 pm
Sometimes your creditors write to you asking for full payment and are willing to accept a lower figure if you settle in full.

Would this be legally binding?
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Post by David Mond » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:15 pm
Under the strict interpretation of english law - no - but funny things happen with creditors. I would think the big banks would honour such agreement but others might not.
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Post by kallis3 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:17 pm
Thank you David.
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Post by Andrew Graveson » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:22 pm
I am no lawyer but in practical terms, as David states, major banks and credit card companies are hardly going to take someone to Court to collect a remaining balance after they have accepted a reduced amount in full and final settlement and have confirmed this in writing.
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Post by David Mond » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:18 am
In the end I prefer a F&F by way of an IVA - full and unequivacable protection once accepted and paid.
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Post by kallis3 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:55 am
I think I would feel happier as well doing it through a full and final.

Although they probably wouldn't come back for anymore, I think I'd always have that nagging doubt in the back of my mind.
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Post by Andrew Graveson » Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:10 pm
Fair point David.

To balance it are the risks of very high future costs for mortgage holders with a formal insolvency on their credit record.
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