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Post by lily » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:54 pm
It may have already been mentioned IVA.com do a list of IP's companies and user feedback.

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Post by bucpaul » Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:58 am
Thanks everyone for the sound advice, I certainly will be exploring the options, I think the main thing is to go to the Bureau Monday and get some perspective, if anything.

I also have an appt. with the Co-op bank this Thursday with a view to opening up a new current account with them.

A friend (in a similar situation) advised me what I should do is get the new account and the very second it's open I should withdraw what my money I have from the old one, and immediately draft a letter to the bank stating that I wish to cancel all my standing orders and am cancelling my account and all my debts are now being handled by the Citizen's Advice Bureau. Additionaly, my friend advised me to also include in the letter that I have been a customer of the bank for 23 years and, as the account manager stated she was unable to do anything and that I should go to the Bureau, I am merely following her advice to the letter. When I go to the Bureau on Monday, and no doubt they will tell me but I'm desperate to know - do *I* phone the bank and say the Bureau will be dealing with the matter or does the Bureau normally step right in if you request them to?

Sorry if I'm asking questions that may already be answered elsewhere in the forum, thank you all for your patience/understanding/advice, it means a lot!
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Post by whichwaynow » Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:51 am
It will depend on what course of action they think is the best for you. This is how I did things. Went to the CAB who went over how much I owed and what options I had. Decided that a IVA was the best option for me and arranged a meeting with Grant Thornton. I then opened a new account and stoped all my DDs. Had meeting with CAB and Grant Thornton went over options again filled in I&E form. Then had to send various forms off to GT and a week or so latter recieved a letter telling me to stop payment to all my creditors.
I then contacted all my creditors my phone, you may wish to write.I advised them that I was in trouble and would be going in to a IVA with (the firm of your choice).
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Post by iva.com » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:39 pm
Hi bucpaul,

Did you meet with CAB today? If so I hope that it went well.

If you do decide that an IVA is the right solution for you, take a look at our site. As some of the other posters have mentioned (thanks guys!) we publish client reviews of the services provided by IVA firms which can be useful when deciding which to work with.

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100s of reviews, All IPs and IVA firms rated.

Use our IVA firm comparison tool to find best IVA firm for you:
http://www.iva.com/iva_comparison_1.asp
 
 

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Post by bucpaul » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:53 am
Hi Terry,

This sounds like a comedy of errors but here goes:

I spent the past couple of weeks doing my homework, drawing and re-drawing my expenses, debts, incomings, etc. etc. and finally "fine tuned" it to a debt management plan I thought was workable.

I went to my local branch of the CAB half an hour prior to opening so I was 1st in the queue. As you could imagine, I was raring to go, to finally kickstart the process. I was let in and was told "I'm sorry, this particular branch deals ONLY with parents of children under the age of five". Funny, I don't recall reading THAT on the website nor was it mentioned anywhere in the pre-recored message on their phone. I work nights so I was far too tired to even be openly agitated at the time, I was given a couple generic leaflets on debt, but most of what was in them is on this forum as well.

Long story short, I have to go to ANOTHER branch of the CAB 10 minutes away tomorrow when they open. I'm ever so annoyed as finally channeled my panicking into a frame of mind where I could get past the worrying and be proactive, only to walk into a brick wall. OK, it's only one more day, but "Grrr!", nonetheless....
 
 

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Post by Adam Davies » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:40 pm
Hi
I hope that you get some good advice tomorrow,please post and let us all know how you get on
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Post by R1chard » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:46 pm
i found thomas charles to be excellent and honest. speak to those, i believe they post on here aswell.

58 PAYMENTS TO GO..
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Post by bucpaul » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:30 am
OK, I went to the CAB today and they really were quite helpful (considering the amount of pressure they have to contend with in the volume of people they have to see in a day!).

They provided me with a sheet with loads of places that help people navigate through the quagmire of debt, the person at the CAB recommended a company called "Fair Finance", she has dealt with them extensively and said people who dealt with them were extremely pleased with them.

I phoned them today and outlined my situation, my initial impression is that they seem astute and utterly professional and most importantly, know what to do! I booked an appointment for this Friday afternoon, which is only two days away, thank goodness, at least things seem to be happening after that "false start".

Another question, however. I asked the CAB what I should do in terms of communicating with my bank, as I outlined earlier, the assistant manager last week requested I inform them when I have spoken to the CAB. The person at the CAB said to call them once I leave the office and simply state I am returning the call at the request of the assistant manager to say I am honouring her request that I inform her that the matter is being dealt with by the CAB. I spoke to someone at the bank, the assistant manager wasn't there, but this person said they would pass this information on to her.

Now that I got that task out of the way, I just had a frightening thought. Would the bank attempt to stripmine my account to essentially get what they can, now that a third party is being involved? As I said, I'm going to the Co-Op bank tomorrow for a meet with a customer service person so I can open an account there. I really couldn't get a conclusive answer or indication from the CAB person (as it was only a 10 minute meeting) as to what I should do, so what I need to know is:

1) Once I get the other account open, do I transfer what money I have into it?

2) I need to cancel my direct debits, three of them were for frivoulous non vital stuff that I haven't even been using. The two main debits are for the loan and Virgin Media (for phone/TV/broadband). I am looking at Fair Finance to contact my creditors proposing a repayment plan, I've drawn up the budget and what I could realistically afford (approx £375 pcm between the bank & the three credit cards). With the phone/TV I am going to contact Virgin and request I go back to being sent a bill each month as opposed to the standing order. What I'm getting at is --once the new account is in place, do I get my money in there ASAP and close my existing account?
 
 

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Post by jpj » Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:20 am
Move your money ASAP...or they may set it against your debts with them...I would sooner stick it under my mattress for a few days rather than leave it in the account and be thinking are they going to take it or not![B)]
 
 

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Post by bucpaul » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:06 am
Well, I opened the new account and it was amazingly easy[:)] I don't know why I was assuming the worst case scenario. As far as the debits for the phone/TV/broadband, etc. all I have to do is fill out a standard form and my new bank do all the work in terms of transferring them and cancelling them from the other account. They did a cursory credit check right there and then, to be honest, I nearly s**t myself as I missed a loan payment and was positive that would reflect on me but the customer service rep said my credit check came up absolutely fine, and here's the most mindboggling aspect - they immediately gave me a £760 overdraft facility[:0] Not that I want to be in that boat, but IF my old bank get p***y and yank ££ out of my account, it IS a safety net until my wages go in (and yes, I contacted my employer immediately to make sure my wages go into my new account).

I was going to siphon what money I had out of the old account today but as I'm seeing the finance/debt people tomorrow, I want to let them know what's happening before I do that -I'm still worried about the old bank giving me grief if I yank all my ££ at once and how it might impact any proposed repayment plans the finance people will put forward, but I think I will need to do it regardless - I suppose I just want the professionals to advise me.

I know the Co-Op bank has been recommended before to people in a similar predicament, add me to the list of people who are now singng their praises!
 
 

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Post by bucpaul » Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:15 pm
Ok, just got back from my meeting with the person at the debt agency and I'm already feeling better! I provided her with a list of my creditors & copies of my most recent bills, and a draft copy of my incoming & outgoings. The advisor was extrememly reassuring, what she told me, in a nutshell, is that she is going to write to all my creditors with the proposed payments I drafted and that if any of them contact me I am to simply to tell them my account is now being dealt with by a 3d party and they are to contact her, not me. The advisor also confirmed I should cancel my direct debits, withdraw my money and close my account (you were absolutely right, jpj, just need "professional confirmation", hope you understand!).

The advisor said the creditors I have, from previous experience, are happy to deal with 3d parties and prefer a managed repayment proposal rather than an IVA, but she did warn me that Morgan Stanley tend to be persistent, if not obnoxious, with debtors. At least I've been warned[:(] I actually DID pay them this month but because of postal strikes, they obviously haven't received the cheque I posted and they keep phoning all the time but not leaving any messages, I have a feeling they're not gonna be particularly nice over the next few weeks - time to change my phone number and go ex-directory, methinks (of course, everyone else will be provided with it)
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:23 pm
Interesting comment - creditors "prefer a managed repayment proposal rather than an IVA!. I actually do not know any lenders who have this preference - did the advisor explain all of the options to you, and why does she feel a DMP is better for you than say an IVA or bankruptcy proceedings?

Regards, Melanie Giles, Insolvency Practitioner for over 20 years.

To have me propose an IVA for you, please visit:
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Post by Andrew Graveson » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:29 pm
Hello bucpaul,
Just out of interest are there any charges from Fair Finance to set-up and administer the debt management plan? I'm not saying there's any reason why they should not make fair charges but we do from time to time run into cases where 35% of someone's DMP contribution has gone to the company rather than the creditors.
Their website makes no reference to IVA's. Was the option explained to you by the advisor, or was it explained why the IVA solution isn't appropriate for you?

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Post by bucpaul » Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:14 am
I neglected to mention, Fair Finance referred me to the Money Matters Project, who are dealing with my case and they are subsidied and monitored by the DTI. The advisor explained to me that if the creditors would freeze my interest and accept the debt management plan I devised, they would be receiving more money than if I were to take the option of bankruptcy or an IVA. It was indicated to me that the only occassion fees would be incurred were if I to declare bankruptcy or go to Court. I do have all the literature from them which empirically states they do not charge for any advice or help they provide me with. I'm fine with the prospect of manageable debt, it's "crippling" debt I can't contend with. The crux of the matter is that with a DMP I would be able to accrue savings, with an IVA, every single penny would be cannibalised,
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:26 pm
Do you feel that having savings are more important than the length of time it will take you to repay your debts? Of course creditors will get more money back in a DMP - because you will carry on paying it until the debts are paid in full! I'm not trying to put you off from entering into a DMP, but for anyone with debts which will take them longer to pay off than five years, I do struggle to see the benefit of a completely unregulated agreement, with an appalling track record of conclusion.

Regards, Melanie Giles, Insolvency Practitioner for over 20 years.

To have me propose an IVA for you, please visit:
http://www.melaniegiles.com/ivaEnquiry.asp

See customer feedback at:
http://www.iva.com/iva_companies/IVA_Advice_Bureau.asp
Regards, Melanie Giles, Insolvency Practitioner
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