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Post by kallis3 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:50 pm
I think though that we need to get back to the original thread - we've hijacked it somewhat!!
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Post by olympic_torch » Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:59 pm
Brings a whole new meaning to "cash in hand".

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Post by country girl » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:19 pm
Hi

I know what you mean about thee equity Jan. We have equity in our house and secured loans etc like you.There are times when I just feel like selling up and paying it all off and having a life again!

I seem to be finding it hard at the moment worse then when I first started don't know about you.

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Post by kallis3 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:26 pm
I know what you mean Linda.

As we have three dogs of our own plus future son in laws guide dog then we coulnd't find anywhere to rent that would accomodate us.

We are struggling at the moment due to unexpected expense.
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Post by country girl » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:54 pm
Yes

I can see the problem, renting is not straight forward either I know.

Well we must tell ourselves the IVA will not be forever.!

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Post by kallis3 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:16 pm
I love my home and will fight tooth and nail to keep it.
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Post by Sally.a » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:56 pm
font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:<hr height="1" noshade>Originally posted by nepensioner

Hi Sally, welcome. The answer I think will lie in your original proposal. Was there a minimum dividend mentioned, suspect if there is no equity, the extension may be because of that.
 
 

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Post by Sally.a » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:04 pm
I have just checked my paperwork and the dividend was 60pence in the pound.They had the equity in the property at £8964 I really don't know where they got this figure from ? In an annual report in 2008 I was told the shortfall on my IVA was £696 so are the extra 12months payments because there is no equity. Don't these companies check the equity before your IVA comes to an end I don't think many people will have that much equity unless they have been in their property for many years. What will happen if I don't extend my payments
 
 

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Post by Foggy » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:15 pm
I am afraid, in earlier proposals, that in many cases equity was specified and therefore payable regardless of the situation at the end of the IVA. This was done, believe it or not, because, up to the peak in 2007 the property market was rapidly rising and the expectation was that if equity was, say £6000 at the start of the IVA, it could well have been £10 or 12,000 at the end. So proposals fixed the figures in order to protect the debtor from having to pay over too much.

Unfortunately the bubble burst and the market went into a decline, but nobody could see this coming (or, at least, ignored it).

In some cases IP's have put forward variations to bring the older proposals in line with the more modern, Protocol Compliant, ones. In theese, generally but not invariably, equity is only set towards the end of the IVA. If it is less than £5000 is is disregarded, and if more, but, as is usually the case, cannot be realised, 12 months are added to the term instead. In many cases a 12 month extension works out financially better for the debtor.
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Post by nepensioner » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:18 pm
Hi Sally, I really think you need to speak to your IP about this. You need a proper explanation as to how they arrived at their figures. The way I see it is at £520 per month X 60 =£31,200. 60p dividend would work out at £31,800, so there is a shortfall of £600 plus IP fees. Do phone them and insist on speaking to your IP..
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Post by nepensioner » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:20 pm
sorry, meant to add that this does not include the thorny equity figures..
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Post by Foggy » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:28 pm
It wouldn't surprise me if the equity amount is very similar to the fees ( the shortfall being addressed seperately, as I read it).
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Post by Sally.a » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:10 pm
font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:<hr height="1" noshade>Originally posted by Foggy

It wouldn't surprise me if the equity amount is very similar to the fees ( the shortfall being addressed seperately, as I read it).
 
 

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Post by Firefox » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:32 pm
Hi,

Your proposal will detail the payments in lieu of equity, we were in a similar position in so far as we were not able to re-mortgage, however we dug our heels in with the creditors at the outset so that the agreed dividend did not include equity release therefore if it were possible it would be a bonus to creditors. Check your proposal as it may have a clause which stipulates "best endeavors" to obtain a re-mortgage and also check if the agreed dividend was calculated based on the inclusion of equity release, if it was not then there should be no reason for you to extend.

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Post by kallis3 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:41 pm
We will have to make an extra 12 months in lieu of equity which I am quite happy to do.
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