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Post by deanwinchester » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:13 am
Hello All,

On average how long does it take to get a variation of you IVA?
Due to unforeseen circumstances over 3 years ago I needed to cancel my car finance, which would affect contributions year 4 onwards (IP FULLY aware at the time). Its taken my IP this long to get the documentation to me and have now negated on a verbal agreement to extend 3 months, to now stating 7 months. Can a verbal agreement be binding or do the rules not apply to IP`s and they simply do as they please?

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Post by lifenoteasy » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:22 am
No-one can force an IP to change their mind on a decision they make.

Is the 7 month extension linked to any arrears?
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Post by deanwinchester » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:27 am
Yes linked to arrears
We verbally agreed if I made increased payments to X amount they would require a 3 month extension which I agreed. How can they miscalculate and now state 7 months?
 
 

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Post by Michael Peoples » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:45 am
The IP does not have a huge amount od discretion and would normally have to call a variation meeting if the changes are anyway material. If there were minor arrears this can be addressed with a simple extension but if the overall contributions fell the IP may have had to ask creditors for direction.

You need to speak with the IP and get them to clarify exactly what happened and why.
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Post by deanwinchester » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:34 am
Michael, I have asked them, still seeking clarification.
I was more concerned on the verbal agreement being negated on, surely they must stick to their word? Or does it mean nothing in the grand scheme of things and ultimately if they dont need to stick to their word an IP is law of its own and can chop and change as they see fit.

Can wait to see the back of this IVA, its been 1 gigantic mess from start to (whenever) it finishes and the IP in question, should be ashamed of its actions to date.
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Post by Foggy » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:45 am
A verbal agreement is worth nothing, unless it can be proven ( recorded conversation). In any event, the situation in an IVA is forever fluid and can change all the time regarding dividends and arrears etc. Basically, here, you are at the mercy of your IP.
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Post by deanwinchester » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:07 am
Well, I do believe its recorded as they have listened to it and confirmed that it was agreed with me.
 
 

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Post by Michael Peoples » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:53 am
It is possible that there was agreement but creditors subsequently overruled this. I am guessing as it would be poor to make an agreement and then change it later on.
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Post by deanwinchester » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:08 pm
It has not gone to creditors yet, the letter has been drafted awaiting my signature. Hence why i am questioning it now. I guess note to self: get everything in writing.
 
 

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Post by Michael Peoples » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:27 pm
Perhaps the original three was an estimate or someone not fully qualified to agree it. The variation will be based on all the facts and probably is what your IP knows to offer. It is a pity but hopefully the variation is approved and the extra four months goes by quickly.
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