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Post by moretolife » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:43 am
if someone that you know gives you a gift of money for a specific purpose do we have to tell IP...eg money for flights...or for a weekend away....as its not regular and its not income and its for a specific purpose i wondered if it can just be received with thanks.?!!??
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Post by freelili » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:52 am
I am really not sure about this, I think if your car breaks down or something and someone offers to bail you out its OK. I think I read somewhere that you can keep up to 500 pounds in a gift but I am not sure, better wait for a professional.

My brother wanted to give me 200 pounds for christmas last year, knowing my situation he gave me vouchers as he knew this was OK. He is a bank director and knows a little bit about insolvency, he wouldnt give me the money for fear of it being nabbed, he knew we needed it for food etc.
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Post by pixie » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:03 am
gifts are yours to keep. It's only things like lottery wins and inheritance that fall under the windfall category.
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Post by aguise » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:08 am
Hi Mtl

As pixie says if it is a gift it is yours enjoy it. Inheritance or winnings then it will fall under the windfall clause in your proposal. Ours states we can keep the first £500 and anything above goes to the iva.

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Post by angela18 » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:24 am
Does that mean if say your parents give you £1000 you could keep it.. or just £500..
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Post by aguise » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:32 am
Now ang you have got me there.
I would still say that if they gave you a gift of £1000 it would be yours. It would be a gift, it could be given for a holiday, or new electricals. If you inherited a £1000 then you would keep £500 and pay £500 to the iva. If they were to pay for your car to be repaired for £1000 then it wouldnt be questioned.

Hopefully Melanie or David will clarify.

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Post by moretolife » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:34 am
interesting isnt it??..our IVA says only about windfalls and lttoery...but doesnt specify a minimum amount...hope melanie/andy/david can clarify
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Post by james.c » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:47 am
A gift is not a windfall you should be ok.

After all if you get gifts at christmas and birthdays your IP would not expect you to sell them to put the money in to your IVA.
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:53 am
Just to confirm from a technical point of view that gifts are definately not windfalls, as the other posters have already mentioned.
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Post by moretolife » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:45 pm
well thats good news cos we got given 250 .00 at weekend...from friends...didnt want to spend it in case we had to declare it to IP.
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Post by MelanieGiles » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:11 pm
You go and enjoy it - and what lovely friends.
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Post by moretolife » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:15 pm
methinks we will use it to go to scotland for christmas..we had booked the whole family but had to pull out when we realised we wouldnt have enough money...but now we may re-visit the budget and see what is what...life can be sweet sometimes eh?
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Post by Til » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:49 pm
Seems a little extreme but would a gift as large as £30K still be safe if necessary?

Obviously if this happened we would want to offer a F&F but if for exapmple the gift came with the condition that it be used for an extension and not for the IVA - would this be allowed?

It goes without saying that an F&F would be preferred so this would be our first choice - however if the family member giving the money would not allow us to use it for this I would cry to have to turn down such a generous gift!

Is a gift as large as £30k still considered a gift and safe from IVA if it needs to be?

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Post by james.c » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:52 pm
i think you may get away with it depending on how you did it, but to be realistic, it would never happen, and if it ddi, you house would go up in value and you would have to remortagage in the fourth year
 
 

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Post by David Mond » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:53 pm
As Melanie says a gift is not a windfall. Your gift if used on an extension on your property poses an interesting question. Since if your IVA has a clause to re-value the property in the final year and your 85% interest (subject to LTV) is paid into the pot by way of re-mortgage? So be careful!
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