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Post by iva experts » Fri May 04, 2007 2:56 pm
I agree with Melanie, there is no such thing as I free IVA.

Even though the CCCS is a charity I still believe they would need to charge IVA fees of sum sort, even if they are cheaper fees.

It’s interesting that the opposite has been stated on their website.

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Post by Andy2 » Fri May 04, 2007 3:04 pm
I suppose all IPs - CCCS included - can advertise that an IVA is "free" of fees to the debtor because in reality it is....at the end of the day it is the creditors who "pick up the bill" ultimately.
 
 

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Post by Sadsack » Fri May 04, 2007 3:25 pm
Let us assume that one has debts of £106k. Creditors want a minimum return of 41p in the £. This will equate to approx £46k being paid to the creditors. However, IP fees still get added on to this amount which may amount to £8,5k. So in actual fact, your debt is then approx £54k and ultimately the debtor is in fact paying the IP fees and not the creditors as they have already stated what their minimum return of acceptance is. So, no, there is no FREE IVA!!!!!
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Post by Andy2 » Fri May 04, 2007 3:46 pm
Remember sadsack in the above exampple that the debt is STILL £106K even "inside" the duration of an IVA. Only when that IVA is totally completed to the satisfaction of the creditors does that figure get reduced. In reality the debt is always going to be £106K - though at least interest and charges are frozen "inside" an IVA. It never becomes either £46K (net of IP fees) or £54K (gross of IP fees). You will always "owe" £106K until the certificate of completion is presented. I have known people who think the "write off" is at the start of an IVA when in fact it is at the closing stage.
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri May 04, 2007 3:52 pm
CCCS have stated publicly that they will be offering IVA's at a reduced cost from most other insolvency practitioners. That is a matter of fact, and it will take them some time to set up and establish their operation. I personally wish them every success with their marketing - and yes they will be charging fees.

The reality of their efforts will result in yet another volume processing operation, merely charging lower fees than the other volume processing operations. Whilst this may seem attractive to creditors at first glance, the majority of creditors I speak to say that costs are not the only issue they consider. The quality of the proposal, its research and presentation - and importantly whether it produces the dividend required by ongoing careful supervision are likely to be just as, if not more, important.

There is already much criticism of volume processing firms, and room for quality new entrants into this marketplace. CCCS will not be able to handle all IVA's in the future, if today's statistics are anything to go by - and of course they need to employ quality, trained and experienced staff who will not be working for nothing.

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Post by Adam Davies » Fri May 04, 2007 4:19 pm
Hi
I can imagine an IVA overload for the CCCS at first and can also see them being more suited to straight forward cases.
It will be interesting but feel that it can only be a good thing for the debtor and indeed the whole IVA industry.
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Post by Jayneb » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:57 pm
You don't need to worry about CCCSVA being a 'production line' service they are only offering the IVA service to clients who have gone through their full debt advice service first, to make sure they are getting 'best advice' for their situation. So hopefully no square pegs in round holes! (or is it round pegs in square holes - never quite sure?).


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Post by Adam Davies » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:02 am
Hi
Thats interesting and also reassuring.
Thanks for the info
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