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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:25 pm
by james.c
On way back from hospitial tonight i called in to a garage for some fuel and as i walked to pay, i saw the headlines and two newspapers.

First one said "NO MORE 100% Mortgages"

Second one said "NOW WATER BILLS UP 10%"

I think the credit crunch as hit us, for one reason only, we are in a recession.

I remmeber speaking to my parents about the 80's when interest rates were sky high. My dad told me that by the time they had paid the mortgage, and bills, his wage had gone and he also had a part time job in a pub to pay for weekly food, I can remmber this i had to eat liver, i didnt like it etc etc. He told me the only treat my mum and dad had was 2 halves of large everyweek at the local pub, no expensive TVS years with out new clothes etc etc.

I wonder by the time the 90,s came along, the next generation, ie me leaving school and working, interest rates were better, we were getting paid and everyone started to question how much things cost and manufactures started to move to India and China etc to get goods cheaper and we could by them cheaper therfore we had more disposable income and the banks knew this and offered credit to everyone that wanted.

Now things are going up in price and people stop spending and look were we are now.

I am no politician but some one once told me that the reason why the interest rates were so high in the 80,s was that conservates were tring to get the country out of debts that labour got us in to in the 70's i wonder if this is happening again, ie 30 year cycle ( i must point out i dont vote, so i am not biased to any party).

These are just my thoughts without been a money expert or politician and trying to look outside the box.

What does every one else think about my theory?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:28 pm
by MelanieGiles
Yes - I can remember the days of having a 15% mortgage, and sincerely hope we do not get back to those.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:01 am
by debbiw
I think it is disgusting, the price of petrol, gas, electric, water, etc etc... People are just working to pay their household bills at the moment. Some might say - what is the point in working? For nothing basically!
Thats good old England for you - tax everything !

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:08 am
by size5
I also remember those days and have to confess to having to sell my house at that time as I couldn't afford the mortgage that I had with the National and Provincial.

Horrible, and a recession is the last thing we need. Hope it doesn't happen.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:13 am
by Adam Davies
Hi
I too can remember paying a 15% mortgage and having negative equity,from memory my mortgage payments took about 60%+ of my net wage at the time.How we survived that time amazes me
Regards

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:38 pm
by size5
What amazes me is that we are constantly told now that income multiples are so much less strict than they were, eg you can borrow 5 times joint salaries etc, whereas back then it was 2 and a half times, so paying 60% of your net wage shouldn't, in theory, have been allowed to happen.
Mind you, the old rates seemed so much easier than the current council tax so I suppose swings and roundabouts to a certain extent.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:55 pm
by debbie.s
You were allowed to borrow upto three times your salary. Our mortgage started out at about 6 or 7%. After the rates went up to 16% our mortgage was more than half our income too.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:06 pm
by angela18
Oh My God

This sounds awful... hope its just a blip.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:38 pm
by Adam Davies
Hi
I also had one of those 'low start mortgages' where you only paid part of the amount due and the rest was added to your mortgage balance each month.Each year your payments and your debt went up !!
I always try and fix my mortgage rate now
Regards